why are you so obsessed with looks anyway?

Yes it's important but it isn't the key determinant to getting the girl.

LOL your game probably sucks, for you to have this limiting belief.

Anyway, i see you have some hatred towards pickup. It's ok man! we all feel frustrated one time or another! But venting out your frustration doesn't help =)

cmon man! stop asking me for so much advice. Just go out there and meet girls! Brian your a cool dude, let it out =)

Let me give you my take on this and maybe some of the more experienced guys can weigh in. Looks are just one type of value, but they are the most surface value. Chances are if you are good looking, you have money to take care of yourself and a reason to take care of yourself (ie members of the opposite sex like good looking guys and you stay good looking because you enjoy having continued success with them).

However, Brad Pitt's value to girls is much more than just looks. At age 46 now, there are much better looking male models and even male actors based on looks alone if you didn't know who either one was and objectively put both in a lineup and asked a female to pick out the one she finds more attractive.

Brad Pitt's value comes from the intangibles such as the fact that he is a worldwide known individual, is at the top of his field, is married to a woman who is of equal value and the fact that any woman would want to sleep with him if given the chance. Therefore, if you want to have the type of success with women that Brad Pitt would if he were single, it isn't about trying to look like him but about raising your value in conversation with girls that they think that you may be on some sort of comparable level. Things like telling stories that make yourself seem at the top of your profession, lots of people know you and other girls want you, you will slowly get to this peak over the course of an hour or two hour interaction.

Now the problem with a club is that you're not able to have a conversation easily to communicate these values to the girl and all she has to decide who to sleep with is based entirely on looks and she hopes (but she can't tell for sure) that he has some sort of value personality and intellect as well. Girls are judging guys, the same way guys are judging girls. When you go to the club, are you dancing with the fattest, ugliest girl there? No. But if a somewhat unattractive girl were to meet you in a venue where you can have a conversation and blows you away with a great personality, cool job, cool friends and stories about all the guys that were chasing her but she turned down, if you're not a completely shallow guy you might consider meeting up with her again. Everyone loves the girl that drinks beer and watches football (at least I do haha). If you're not good looking but can build enough value for yourself, you can have most girls who are not shallow. Don't believe me? Read up on Gene Simmons

I just want to add also on my previous post that it frustrates me when PUAs say looks don't matter, because of course they do. However, down on their luck PUAs who really believe looks do matter are those who think that you need to look like a male version of a 9 to attract the female version of a 9. Your looks just need to be congruent with the high value individual you are presenting to the world. If you are DHVing yourself based on fitness or athletic accomplishments, you better not be 400 lbs. If you are DHVing yourself on the fact that girls are always chasing you, you better have showered at least once that week. If you are DHVing yourself that girls are always commenting you on your great fashion sense, you better not be wearing a shirt that has a spaghetti sauce stain on it. Mick Jagger and Steven Tyler are not classically good looking guys, but don't tell that to the hundreds of mothers who would give up their daughters to be with them and vice versa.

Basically what i'm saying is you don't need to look like Orlando Bloom, but you better be able to have or to build his kind of value if you want to be gaming the girls that run in his social circle.

Nice handle.